This week on the podcast, we cover CISA's newly updated whitepaper on guidance for both software manufacturers and customers on the principals of secure-by-design and secure-by-default. Before that, we cover the Cisco IOS XE vulnerability that is under active exploitation in the wild, give an update on the EPA's efforts to regulate cybersecurity practices in water districts, and then discuss research into the latest "bullet proof hosting" options for malicious web content.